ELMSHILL, THEN NAPIER
Frederick John Tiffen. Lucy Tiffen. The Parents
Fred Tiffen's lifetime of work, materially, led from a clay floor three room hut that he built on the hillcrest of Elmshill, when Lucy was pregnant with "Willie" in 1860. We third generation on children were always led to inspect and see the foundation in the house orchard) the patch of clay. His final house in Napier, they moved into in 1910 on Station Street. Even when it had been finished, they first rented it out. Lucy was so keen on being in Wellington as often as was possible, if she was not ill. Wellington had been her home for nineteen years 1840 - 1859. The Tiffens stayed in rentals on The Terrace in Wellington. The two and then the two with their daughter Winifred Louisa (later also with a nurse) were a generation that lived to enjoy train rides. Fred and Lucy visited his sister, Belinda Hazelden and family, there.
Frederick Tiffen with four sons Frederick (1828 - 1911)
ELSTHORPE
SETH JOHN TIFFEN 1908 - 1992 Seth Tiffen, first son of Frank Louis Tiffen who was the youngest son of Lucy and Fred, had a collapsed lung as a boy of eight. He was bed-ridden then for months. SETH was enlisted in the HOME GUARD, CENTRAL HAWKES BAY, during WWII.

TAIRAWHITI gisborne, patangata, napier

(George William, childhood nicknamed, "Willie.") (Henry Monteith nicknamed Monty) George was a keen hobbyist with rifle shooting. He won a competition in Dunedin. The couple sometimes holidayed there. Jessie lived there after the couple divorced.
Tiffen, Henry Ernest, 1869-1920. Lucy and Fred Tiffen took on a Clive Square rental in Napier. They lived in it for fifteen years before they lived on Station Street in the big house that Fred had built. Thinking that Henry E is the man in this photo, he lived with the family until he married Kate Campbell, and they tried farming in the Gisborne region. His schooling was at Wanganui Collegiate.
He married Isabella Julia Catherine's (Kate) (1866 - 1945) Campbellon 13 Dec 1892, the couple married at Mangataikopua, the home of Kate's parents. They had three sons. Henry Monteith (Monty) 1895 - 1939* Frederick Hugh 1900- 1903 Douglas Neil 1905 - 1980 Frederick died at age three in Gisborne. Monty married Joyce White, born in a family in Waipukurau. They had three children. Margaret Patricia (Pat), Mary Elizabeth (Betty) and John. Betty married a doctor, Vickery, in Truro, England. There have been several doctors in the family, including one nephew who looked after Neil Tiffen at Patangata when he was aged and ill. John Douglas Tiffen 1931 - 1993. John married twice and had four daughters. died in Leeds. **
Fred and Edith.
Notes from Monty's nephew Laurie Tiffen. *Monty suffered from a gas attack in France during WW1. See Below. He died of pneumonia at his farm at just 43 years of age. This was at his farm " Te Roto", in 1939, in the Takapau locality, Central Hawkes Bay.
The couple is buried in Waipawa. ** " John Tiffen was part of setting up Yorkshire Television and devising and filming programmes like "Emmerdale Farm". I saw him 1st in 1986 when he came back to Hawkes Bay for a family visit, then in 1991 in Wellington after his Mother, Joyce died. He had just signed a contract to film all the Formula 1 races for some years all around the world. "
George, Fred, Henry and Frank's sister Ida also went to live in Gisborne. She married Douglas Lysnar in 1893 (CHAPTER TWO)
WARS

The implications of sons at WAR, the GREAT WAR and WORLD WAR II
Within the first and second generations the females born during farm business histories were Mary, Ida and Louisa Winifred. Mary, married in 1883. Ida, in 1893. Louisa married in 1913 when World War I was inevitable.Mary Tiffen married Charles Tuke. The family lived in Hawkes Bay, later in Tauranga. Retired to Remuera.
NAPIER SONS TO WAR
All three Tuke sons went to war. WWI Laurence Hugh Aubrey
more below
TAIRAWHITI SONS TO WAR
Two of William and Jesse (nee Granville) Tiffen's sons went to War II
more below
PATANGATA SONS TO WAR. I & II

Sons of:

Henry Ernest Tiffen (1869 - 1920)

and Isabella Julia Catherine (Kate) (1866 - 1945)


Both sons went to war *

Henry Monteith Tiffen (1897 - 1939)
Henry Monteith Tiffen 1897 - 1939Henry Monteith, fought in France in WWI and then farmed sheep in Hawkes Bay at Ongauonga. He had respiratory issue from gas poisoning in war. He died of pneumonia age 43.
Frederick born in 1900 -1904**
Douglas Neil Tiffen 1905 - 1980

Douglas Neil Tiffen 1905 - 1980 Mathena Ann (Vipond) 07 Feb 1913 - 1990. Neil and Ann married In England in 1941.
Neil was a Private with the infantry, 22nd (Wellington) Battalion of the Second New Zealand Expeditionary Force, Second Echelon [2] (Service number 6734). He was captured in Crete Greece on 14 July 1941 and held as a Prisoner of War [3]
PRISONER IN GERMANY SOLDIER PRESUMED KILLED. Advice has been received in Gisborne that Private Douglas Neil Tiffen, of Hawke’s Bay, who was previously reported missing and subsequently was presumed by a court of inquiry to have been killed in action, is now a prisoner of war in Germany. Private Tiffen’s wife, who is in England, is understood to have received advice to that effect and has communicated it to relatives in this district.[4]
Neil was interned at age 22. He had gone to Hampstead first, in 1941, for training in the infantry. He met Ann there through family circles. Dispatched to fight, he was almost immediately captured by the German military and held in a makeshift camp in Crete. He spent four years in a prisoner of war camp in Opole in southern Poland in 1942. In Jan 1945 he was marched from Millowitz Coal Mining Camp in Poland towards Germany where he was liberated by American forces on 28 April. He also returned to farm sheep. Neil's son, Laurie, cites quick determination. His father " arrived back to New Zealand in September, 1945, and within three days, he went by train to Gisborne to buy some Hereford bulls"
Neil and Ann Vipond married at Kingston-Upon-Thames, London, in 1941 * Neil and Ann are buried in Waipawa. Link to Ann when Suzanne and Charles visited from Paris in 1959. that is the key women in the mid 20th Century Photograph.
The sole public image of the Halifax Explosion. 6 December 1917. Aubrey witnessed The Halifax Explosion. This was a catastrophic man-made disaster on December 6, 1917, caused by a collision between two ships in Halifax Harbour, resulting in nearly 2,000 deaths and widespread destruction. He was riding in the head of a second ship that passed this one by in a narrow stretch of sea. He was home in New Zealand by 1918 with tales to tell.
Aubrey https://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/C90871?lang=mi-nz
Aubrey ready to sail to England to training in 1917
Left. whāriki . Mat or carpet of Welcome. Christchurch. 2024. By Stephanie Beth. Other photos from open source.
Gisborne details
George William Tiffen Jesse Tiffen
Two sons to WWII
John Henry Tiffen. He came back. Upon his return maintained a career as an engineer in Te Kuiti all of his life. We all called him Jack. Laurence Godfrey Montrose Tiffen did not return to New Zealand. He was a RAF pilot. He stayed in England. It is rumoured that he became quite a thespian. He died in Adelaide at age 90.
AUCKLAND TUKE next generations
Aubrey Tuke married in 1930 TUKE—CLAYTON—On January 15, 1930, at the Diocesan High School Chapel, Auckland. by the Veil. Archdeacon MacMurray, Ida Ziegler, elder daughter o£ the late C. Z. Clayton and Mrs. Clayton, EllerslieAubrey married Ida Zieglar in 1930. He and Ida Zeiglar had Charles, 1930. Charles lived to 90 in 2021. Charles Z.Tuke . Pupil at St Kentigerns, followed by son and grandson.https://www.saintkentigern.com/The family lives to the seventh TUKE/TIFFEN generation living today.
See Fred Tiffen's house exterior. See MANGARARA ECO LODGE AFTER TIFFEN SALES OF THEIR FARM in the late 1990
Aunt Winifred Louisa Tiffen lived there until she sold the house and married in 1913 (Ken Tiffen sys that he remembers being invited to her place for juice and cakes as a boy). An article about great grandad Tiffen's house interior post 1913, it being the Station Street home. Winifred then sold it. It withstood the 1931 Napier Earthquake and became the Arcadia Private Hotel. An owner, Mr Oliver, who had The Acadia Hotel, lost this on Emerson Street in the quake. He bought the Tiffen home and made it a private Arcadia Hotel. He first 'immediately offered rental accommodation after the quake' He then added ten more rooms.
UPDATE. GREG HART. MANGARARA STATION https://www.agmatters.nz/case-studies/mangarara-farm-greg-and-rachel-hart-elsthorpe/
ALL CONTENT